tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post4595634437037535907..comments2023-08-15T07:15:18.480-07:00Comments on Two Guys Making That Money: When Using My Words Cost MeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-13338882642395325592008-02-20T11:50:00.000-08:002008-02-20T11:50:00.000-08:00(Sidebar to Julie: Know What I Mean is a funny sho...(Sidebar to Julie: Know What I Mean is a funny short story I just read by Jeffrey Archer, so I chuckle when I see you say KWIM because I know someone who uses it frequently like the main character of the story)<BR/><BR/>When I was in eighth grade, my progress report said I had a B despite having only one or two grades below an A, none even low B's, and most high A's. I challenged the teacher about it. She said I miscalculated. I checked my work and challenged again. Still, she was sure she was right. Finally I said, "Can you show me how you come up with your average?" and she showed me she was counting blocks about the width of three ballpoint pen tips by fives - as in, five, ten, fifteen - problem is she counted fifteen when we only had fourteen grades, which I knew. She, to her enormous credit, regraded every progress report by hand right there. One guy gave me a hug and offered to kiss me. I declined. My Mom didn't believe I had the A that was written on the report, though, until she verified it by the teacher, though.<BR/><BR/>I liked how my accounting professor explained it: he could write a test everyone could pass, or a test that everyone would fail, but he felt it best to write tests that gauged understanding of his material instead of gave him a certain grade distribution. He didn't care if we all aced it, if we all knew it. My father called what he said BS, but I think he was right on the money. Too many professors prefer to write tests to fail a lot of people instead of to gauge knowledge. I wish I could've taken all my accounting from that professor.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-51768500736121337242008-02-20T11:38:00.000-08:002008-02-20T11:38:00.000-08:00Ellie is right: evaluations after grades handed in...Ellie is right: evaluations after grades handed in but before grades are handed out. That's the window for honesty and less conflict of interest.<BR/><BR/>My human anatomy and physiology prof dropped dead and a botany prof took over. The class was 75% premed students. The botany prof didn't know a uvula from a clavicle. We grouped together and taught ourselves from the book, with the TA. The botany prof gave us...her botany exam. We didn't know a pistil from a stamen and we ALL failed. We appealed to her, to the Dean, to anyone. Ultimately it boiled down to: she's the prof, can do what she wants and life's not fair.<BR/><BR/>Talk about utterly missing the point.<BR/><BR/>At first I thought we failed, not the class, but the trying to fix it.<BR/><BR/>Then I realized, hey, we stood up for ourselves. That counts. We lost the battle but win the war on that count, KWIM?Julie Pipperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-63874393332591879392008-02-20T11:08:00.000-08:002008-02-20T11:08:00.000-08:00Ellie, I wrote many glowing evaluations, especiall...Ellie, I wrote many glowing evaluations, especially of my graduate school faculty. I agree that they should have no access until after grading.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-32703124568936231562008-02-20T11:07:00.000-08:002008-02-20T11:07:00.000-08:00Mommybytes, I felt the decision they made to emplo...Mommybytes, I felt the decision they made to employ her as the Dean of Research indicated a poor one on their part, and funding them would be a poor indication of my approval of their operation. I also dislike the president of my university, so I have other reasons not to donate. I have both my degrees from the same school.<BR/><BR/>I think you meant it was too bad I couldn't evaluate after grades. I agree. I think that is why they do them first, though, which to me is unethical. The whole idea of asking for input in a shielded way (so a student can be open and honest) and then piercing that shield... that offended me deeply. I've never truly taken that up with anyone there, but that's mostly because I don't feel like I have time to bother with it. I still love my school, though.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-16853518661770351352008-02-20T10:59:00.000-08:002008-02-20T10:59:00.000-08:00It seems that there are times when the evaluations...It seems that there are times when the evaluations should before grading but they ought not to be able to be reviewed AT ALL until after grades. However, I have to say that some of my evaluations in college turned out well.le35https://www.blogger.com/profile/03897932629532339487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-72061450274225051462008-02-20T10:55:00.000-08:002008-02-20T10:55:00.000-08:00If only you could've handed in the evaluation befo...If only you could've handed in the evaluation before you were graded! Too bad it influenced your decision to donate to the school previously, the school at large shouldn't be penalized for one faculty member. I'm glad you are making amends now. Then again I have totally ignored the graduate school that I went to because of some nebulous ill-formed feelings I had when I went there, so I'm no saint either ;).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-52967598621150933232008-02-20T10:20:00.000-08:002008-02-20T10:20:00.000-08:00I am the son of a politician, though one who is ap...I am the son of a politician, though one who is apolitical in his relationships. Being raised around it, though, I learned how to say a lot of words that mean very little with flair. Euphamize, mitigate, qualify... breath in... euphamize, mitigate, qualify, breathe out. That's how it feels to think political for me.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826309601023733396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497678546248195850.post-23811479844149569482008-02-20T09:48:00.000-08:002008-02-20T09:48:00.000-08:00Yes, there are always the political concerns. I've...Yes, there are always the political concerns. I've never been good at that :)thailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.com